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	<title>Comments on: Does Wordpress 2.5.1 suck?</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76773</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mayooresan,

I had the same problem with the new image uploader. I was able to get it to work by updating my htaccess file.

And yes, you are right: the huge Wordpress community is a HUGE reason to go with Wordpress ... lot's of support.

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayooresan,</p>
<p>I had the same problem with the new image uploader. I was able to get it to work by updating my htaccess file.</p>
<p>And yes, you are right: the huge Wordpress community is a HUGE reason to go with Wordpress &#8230; lot&#8217;s of support.</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: Mayooresan</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76772</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayooresan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah.. agree with you! I had hell lot of problem with image uploader.. later I switched to non-flash uploader.

but what ever the problem.. you can find solutions online.. thats the beauty of wordpress! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah.. agree with you! I had hell lot of problem with image uploader.. later I switched to non-flash uploader.</p>
<p>but what ever the problem.. you can find solutions online.. thats the beauty of wordpress! <img src='http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76760</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I appreciate the offer of  help, but things seemed to have resolve themselves!?

Check it out:

After doing the installs of different releases of Wordpress (from 2.3.1 to 2.5.1) I found that they all ran really, really slow. 

... Strange since my original WP install was working fine throughout this process. 

Anyway,  so I left it alone (planning to take it down later) and proceeded to install Wordpress 2.5.1 on my dedicated server with the idea of using a sub-domain to create the virtual connection between the root site (killersites.com) and this new Wordpress install. 

Note: I tend to prefer sub-directories to sub-domains because sub-domains can confuse some people and sub-domains can 'confuse' some search engines.

Anyway ..

Then later that day, I decided to check the hanging Wordpress installation and to my surprise ... it was working fine. So, there you have it ... it just works now.

??

Conclusion:

Given that all new installations of Wordpress, regardless of release, was acting up, I now am thinking there was something wrong/wonky on the server end of things and not necessarily Wordpress itself. 

... But I just don't know.

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I appreciate the offer of  help, but things seemed to have resolve themselves!?</p>
<p>Check it out:</p>
<p>After doing the installs of different releases of Wordpress (from 2.3.1 to 2.5.1) I found that they all ran really, really slow. </p>
<p>&#8230; Strange since my original WP install was working fine throughout this process. </p>
<p>Anyway,  so I left it alone (planning to take it down later) and proceeded to install Wordpress 2.5.1 on my dedicated server with the idea of using a sub-domain to create the virtual connection between the root site (killersites.com) and this new Wordpress install. </p>
<p>Note: I tend to prefer sub-directories to sub-domains because sub-domains can confuse some people and sub-domains can &#8216;confuse&#8217; some search engines.</p>
<p>Anyway ..</p>
<p>Then later that day, I decided to check the hanging Wordpress installation and to my surprise &#8230; it was working fine. So, there you have it &#8230; it just works now.</p>
<p>??</p>
<p>Conclusion:</p>
<p>Given that all new installations of Wordpress, regardless of release, was acting up, I now am thinking there was something wrong/wonky on the server end of things and not necessarily Wordpress itself. </p>
<p>&#8230; But I just don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76746</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure it is not a plugin causing the slowdown? Sounds like you have the bug hunting well under control, but you can contact me directly if you believe that I can be of any help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure it is not a plugin causing the slowdown? Sounds like you have the bug hunting well under control, but you can contact me directly if you believe that I can be of any help.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76744</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't tried yet.

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t tried yet.</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: Pádraic Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76742</link>
		<dc:creator>Pádraic Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance of isolating the slow down using XDebug? If it's something specific creating a massive slowdown, XDebug would find capture it in a cachegrind output.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance of isolating the slow down using XDebug? If it&#8217;s something specific creating a massive slowdown, XDebug would find capture it in a cachegrind output.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76741</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You should never alter a live site that is working until you know that the changed code will work properly for you."

True. In this case. I was not altering a live site, just adding a new sub section.

"And wait… You find a bug in the code and all the sudden the entire application sucks?"

I was not meaning to convey that. I like Wordpress.  But the problems do persist.

:(

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You should never alter a live site that is working until you know that the changed code will work properly for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>True. In this case. I was not altering a live site, just adding a new sub section.</p>
<p>&#8220;And wait… You find a bug in the code and all the sudden the entire application sucks?&#8221;</p>
<p>I was not meaning to convey that. I like Wordpress.  But the problems do persist.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And wait... You find a bug in the code and all the sudden the entire application sucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And wait&#8230; You find a bug in the code and all the sudden the entire application sucks?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76739</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally did not encounter these issues, however if you are not setting up another sub-domain for migrating your site you need to rethink your web development practices.  You should never alter a live site that is working until you know that the changed code will work properly for you.

I always setup beta.domain.com and install the latest WP for testing before I take it live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally did not encounter these issues, however if you are not setting up another sub-domain for migrating your site you need to rethink your web development practices.  You should never alter a live site that is working until you know that the changed code will work properly for you.</p>
<p>I always setup beta.domain.com and install the latest WP for testing before I take it live.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wordpress-251-sucks/#comment-76737</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I wanted to update this post given the information I've gathered. 

Well, in a nutshell, I've found that any &lt;strong&gt;new&lt;/strong&gt; install of WP on server A ... and the 2nd install craps out. 

But, installing WP on my own dedicated server (server B) and it works fine. What's weird about all this, is that server A has another WP install that is working just fine! Only the new install keeps hanging. 

... Very weird. 

So at this point, I don't know what to think.

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I wanted to update this post given the information I&#8217;ve gathered. </p>
<p>Well, in a nutshell, I&#8217;ve found that any <strong>new</strong> install of WP on server A &#8230; and the 2nd install craps out. </p>
<p>But, installing WP on my own dedicated server (server B) and it works fine. What&#8217;s weird about all this, is that server A has another WP install that is working just fine! Only the new install keeps hanging. </p>
<p>&#8230; Very weird. </p>
<p>So at this point, I don&#8217;t know what to think.</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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