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	<title>Comments on: Evangelizing PHP for web designers</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; The technologies you need to master to be a complete web designer. &#187; Blog Archive Website Design Blog - Killersites.com</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/comment-page-1/#comment-29165</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The technologies you need to master to be a complete web designer. &#187; Blog Archive Website Design Blog - Killersites.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I go into more detail about php for web designers on my dedicated PHP site for web designers: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/comment-page-1/#comment-28988</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krillz,

&quot;a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.&quot;

The same can be said for good web design: it takes  a while for someone to master the subtleties of CSS, usability and good site structure.

You can argue as to what a noob to PHP should tackle .. but that would not be the point. I know that a understanding of database driven web design just makes web designers better overall. 

Beyond that, web designers will find that their lives will be made much easier with a little PHP knowledge. 

... I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve seen designers frustrated, because they could not make simple changes to a PHP based blog (Wordpress) or a CMS (Drupal, Mambo) because even basic PHP concepts were beyond them.

No, at first they may have a hard time developing a web application from scratch .. and that&#039;s cool. But there are sooo many other areas where some PHP skills can come in very handy.

Thanks for the comments,

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krillz,</p>
<p>&#8220;a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.&#8221;</p>
<p>The same can be said for good web design: it takes  a while for someone to master the subtleties of CSS, usability and good site structure.</p>
<p>You can argue as to what a noob to PHP should tackle .. but that would not be the point. I know that a understanding of database driven web design just makes web designers better overall. </p>
<p>Beyond that, web designers will find that their lives will be made much easier with a little PHP knowledge. </p>
<p>&#8230; I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve seen designers frustrated, because they could not make simple changes to a PHP based blog (Wordpress) or a CMS (Drupal, Mambo) because even basic PHP concepts were beyond them.</p>
<p>No, at first they may have a hard time developing a web application from scratch .. and that&#8217;s cool. But there are sooo many other areas where some PHP skills can come in very handy.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments,</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: krillz</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/comment-page-1/#comment-28986</link>
		<dc:creator>krillz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophisticated well I agree to some extend with you here.

You say that PHP is a more down to earth for a designer, yes sure, but I think that setting up shopping carts or coding something really isn&#039;t something a web designer should do, especially not without the experience, a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.

Remember that with php applications available for hundreds of visitors, of who some might have bad intentions, security is a very great aspect.

Sure encourage them to learn PHP, get more skills but I wouldn&#039;t jump to encouraging them to start coding just of the bat.
Something I believe you should add to your tutorials that is the security aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophisticated well I agree to some extend with you here.</p>
<p>You say that PHP is a more down to earth for a designer, yes sure, but I think that setting up shopping carts or coding something really isn&#8217;t something a web designer should do, especially not without the experience, a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.</p>
<p>Remember that with php applications available for hundreds of visitors, of who some might have bad intentions, security is a very great aspect.</p>
<p>Sure encourage them to learn PHP, get more skills but I wouldn&#8217;t jump to encouraging them to start coding just of the bat.<br />
Something I believe you should add to your tutorials that is the security aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Why PHP is the choice language - a business owners perspective. &#187; Blog Archive KILLERPHP.COM</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/comment-page-1/#comment-25068</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Why PHP is the choice language - a business owners perspective. &#187; Blog Archive KILLERPHP.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve already written about why I think PHP is the language that web designers should learn and why Ruby is no threat to PHP. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/comment-page-1/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have others coming out soon. I&#039;ve been really busy with other projects so I haven&#039;t gotten around to them.

Please give me another week or two.

BTW: you can catch my articles on PHP in the latest Web Designer Magazine - in the next two issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have others coming out soon. I&#8217;ve been really busy with other projects so I haven&#8217;t gotten around to them.</p>
<p>Please give me another week or two.</p>
<p>BTW: you can catch my articles on PHP in the latest Web Designer Magazine &#8211; in the next two issues.</p>
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		<title>By: karl schaap</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/comment-page-1/#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator>karl schaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found your website and watched your videos and I am surprised by how well you explain the basics of php. No other tutorial website, book or video I&#039;ve seen has explained it as well as you have done in your videos. And I appreciate how you explain the language in plain English and not a bunch of jargon. As someone still learning the language this has been a great help in understanding PHP. Please post more videos :)

Regards

Karl

(UK)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found your website and watched your videos and I am surprised by how well you explain the basics of php. No other tutorial website, book or video I&#8217;ve seen has explained it as well as you have done in your videos. And I appreciate how you explain the language in plain English and not a bunch of jargon. As someone still learning the language this has been a great help in understanding PHP. Please post more videos <img src='http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Karl</p>
<p>(UK)</p>
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