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	<title>Comments on: Evangelizing PHP for web designers</title>
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	<description>Dedicated to teaching web designers PHP.</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; The technologies you need to master to be a complete web designer. &#187; Blog Archive Website Design Blog - Killersites.com</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/#comment-29165</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The technologies you need to master to be a complete web designer. &#187; Blog Archive Website Design Blog - Killersites.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I go into more detail about php for web designers on my dedicated PHP site for web designers: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/#comment-28988</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krillz,

"a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night."

The same can be said for good web design: it takes  a while for someone to master the subtleties of CSS, usability and good site structure.

You can argue as to what a noob to PHP should tackle .. but that would not be the point. I know that a understanding of database driven web design just makes web designers better overall. 

Beyond that, web designers will find that their lives will be made much easier with a little PHP knowledge. 

... I can't tell you how many times I've seen designers frustrated, because they could not make simple changes to a PHP based blog (Wordpress) or a CMS (Drupal, Mambo) because even basic PHP concepts were beyond them.

No, at first they may have a hard time developing a web application from scratch .. and that's cool. But there are sooo many other areas where some PHP skills can come in very handy.

Thanks for the comments,

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krillz,</p>
<p>&#8220;a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.&#8221;</p>
<p>The same can be said for good web design: it takes  a while for someone to master the subtleties of CSS, usability and good site structure.</p>
<p>You can argue as to what a noob to PHP should tackle .. but that would not be the point. I know that a understanding of database driven web design just makes web designers better overall. </p>
<p>Beyond that, web designers will find that their lives will be made much easier with a little PHP knowledge. </p>
<p>&#8230; I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve seen designers frustrated, because they could not make simple changes to a PHP based blog (Wordpress) or a CMS (Drupal, Mambo) because even basic PHP concepts were beyond them.</p>
<p>No, at first they may have a hard time developing a web application from scratch .. and that&#8217;s cool. But there are sooo many other areas where some PHP skills can come in very handy.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments,</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: krillz</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/#comment-28986</link>
		<dc:creator>krillz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophisticated well I agree to some extend with you here.

You say that PHP is a more down to earth for a designer, yes sure, but I think that setting up shopping carts or coding something really isn't something a web designer should do, especially not without the experience, a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.

Remember that with php applications available for hundreds of visitors, of who some might have bad intentions, security is a very great aspect.

Sure encourage them to learn PHP, get more skills but I wouldn't jump to encouraging them to start coding just of the bat.
Something I believe you should add to your tutorials that is the security aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophisticated well I agree to some extend with you here.</p>
<p>You say that PHP is a more down to earth for a designer, yes sure, but I think that setting up shopping carts or coding something really isn&#8217;t something a web designer should do, especially not without the experience, a couple of tutorials will not change you to a master over night.</p>
<p>Remember that with php applications available for hundreds of visitors, of who some might have bad intentions, security is a very great aspect.</p>
<p>Sure encourage them to learn PHP, get more skills but I wouldn&#8217;t jump to encouraging them to start coding just of the bat.<br />
Something I believe you should add to your tutorials that is the security aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Why PHP is the choice language - a business owners perspective. &#187; Blog Archive KILLERPHP.COM</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/#comment-25068</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Why PHP is the choice language - a business owners perspective. &#187; Blog Archive KILLERPHP.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve already written about why I think PHP is the language that web designers should learn and why Ruby is no threat to PHP. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have others coming out soon. I've been really busy with other projects so I haven't gotten around to them.

Please give me another week or two.

BTW: you can catch my articles on PHP in the latest Web Designer Magazine - in the next two issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have others coming out soon. I&#8217;ve been really busy with other projects so I haven&#8217;t gotten around to them.</p>
<p>Please give me another week or two.</p>
<p>BTW: you can catch my articles on PHP in the latest Web Designer Magazine - in the next two issues.</p>
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		<title>By: karl schaap</title>
		<link>http://www.killerphp.com/articles/evangelizing-php/#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator>karl schaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found your website and watched your videos and I am surprised by how well you explain the basics of php. No other tutorial website, book or video I've seen has explained it as well as you have done in your videos. And I appreciate how you explain the language in plain English and not a bunch of jargon. As someone still learning the language this has been a great help in understanding PHP. Please post more videos :)

Regards

Karl

(UK)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found your website and watched your videos and I am surprised by how well you explain the basics of php. No other tutorial website, book or video I&#8217;ve seen has explained it as well as you have done in your videos. And I appreciate how you explain the language in plain English and not a bunch of jargon. As someone still learning the language this has been a great help in understanding PHP. Please post more videos <img src='http://www.killerphp.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Karl</p>
<p>(UK)</p>
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